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Offline ND Martin

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Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« on: February 06, 2013, 10:14:10 PM »
          
What’s behind the punishment for fake guns in schools?

By Jon Rappoport

In the latest episode of Ban Fake Guns, we have a boy suspended from school in Florence, Arizona, for carrying, yes, a picture of a gun on his computer. Screen saver. This is surely a sign of complete mental breakdown by school officials. And yet one more reason to home school.

Steve Watson, writing at infowars, runs down the recent litany of fake gun crimes at schools across America, resulting in student suspensions, suspension hearings, and actual school lockdowns:

Transparent toy gun. South Carolina.
Gun built from lego bricks. Massachusetts.
Two kids talking about a nerf gun. New York.
An actual nerf gun. New York.
A pink bubble gun. Pennsylvania.
A paper gun. Pennsylvania.
Pointing a finger and saying “pow.” Maryland.
Playing cops and robbers with fingers. Maryland.
Making a gun “hand gesture.” Oklahoma.

Should we assume that because cops and school officials can’t stop real crimes, they’re settling for stopping fake crimes?

Can you hear the typical response to these school suspensions and lockdowns? “Well, everybody in the community is on edge these days, after Sandy Hook.”

That remark garners a “Mmm, well, sure.”

Then, the follow-up: “It’s unfortunate that school officials and police MAY HAVE overreacted. Suspension from school is PROBABLY too much. These kids need some form of LESSER DISCIPLINE, and, of course, EDUCATION about the dangers of guns.”

And there you have it. It’s a sleight-of-hand trick. Go completely overboard with an officially certified insane action (suspension, lockdown), and people will ask for something slightly less insane instead.

“Well, shooting old Bob in the leg and blowing up his car because he was sitting on his back porch cleaning his rifle was probably a bit much. A few days in jail would have taught him the right lesson.”

In schools, the slightly less insane (but still quite insane) solution to fake guns might go something like this:

“Today, class, we’re going to learn about how dangerous it is to have a picture of a gun.”

“You see, Jimmy, when you build a gun out of lego, you think it’s all right because you don’t know any better. But some other child might be terrified when she sees the gun. And that’s why we’re here. To protect everybody from bad feelings.”

Jimmy scratches his five-year-old head and wonders what world he was born into. He’s just been introduced to “greatest good for the greatest number,” “you have no freedom,” and “least bad for the lowest number,” all in five seconds.

What we’re seeing here is a mandate to change the culture. Teach these kids that any reference to, symbol of, or thought about guns is wrong.

Welcome to operant conditioning.

These fake-gun busts are really about thought crimes.

We recently saw that with the passage of a New York State gun law. It requires psychiatrists to signal the police when they have a patient who may be “a danger to himself or others.” The patient is thereafter banned from owning a gun.

Any patient, any person has had thoughts of violence. Any psychiatrist can tease such thoughts out of a patient. And that can be sufficient to make a report to the police.

Eventually, the population can be directed to believe that “a bad thought” is a definite and inevitable precursor to a real crime. Therefore, nip things in the bud. Label thoughts themselves as crimes and the thinkers criminals.

“Well, Charlie has been having some very strange thoughts. Did you know that? I mean, he’s not the person we assumed he was.”

“Strange thoughts? You mean at the party last week? He was just kidding around.”

“Don’t be an idiot. Thoughts like that lead to serious crimes. Have you been living in a cave?”

And that’s what it feels like. You were living in a cave. When you came out, you discovered the public mindset had changed. All of a sudden, people were believing something new. In this case, they’re believing that “bad thoughts” always led to bad actions.

For example, remember crimes before there were hate crimes? Somebody killed somebody else and he went on trial for murder. Then the “hate conditions” were added, to increase the penalties. At that point, the court system was given the task of reading the criminal’s mind and deciding why he really did what he did. If he had the wrong thought before committing murder, he was a murderer-plus.

Soon, you’ll be hearing this: “Little Bobby brought that nerf gun to school. Twice! It’s incredible! So the school officials have referred him to a psychiatrist. And his parents are making a stink about it! Can you believe that? Obviously, the boy needs treatment. You know what? The parents do, too.”

Here’s what you won’t hear. Over the course of the next year, little Bobby is dosed with Ritalin, Zoloft, and Valproate. Driven into a psychotic state by the drugs, he stabs anther child at school.

Then people will say, “Everybody knew this would happen. That nerf gun was the sign. The boy was having bad thoughts.”

Every special group in America with a social agenda is now committed to operant conditioning of the young. This means repetitive indoctrination in school and intense peer pressure. These groups aren’t messing around. They aren’t interested in rational dialogue between consenting adults. They’re going for the throat: brain-bend the young early and often.

So in schools, we have the dissemination of the green agenda, the bullying agenda, the hate-crime agenda, the gay and lesbian agenda, the sex-education agenda, the vaccination agenda, the psychiatric-treatment agenda, the share-and-care it’s-all-for-the-group agenda, the “living-Constitution” agenda.

I don’t care where you stand on any of these issues. That’s not the point. The point is, the presence of these agendas in schools reveals that those who control the public education system in this country, and those groups who can wheedle their way in, are truly heinous people who fervently believe children are blank slates, little machines waiting to be programmed, and nothing more.

We are talking about a most profound cynicism concerning human beings and what they are made of. We are talking about the view that humans are absolutely and only mind-controlled devices that require the proper software and the Go signal to live their lives and think their thoughts under the supervision of lines of code.

Get this straight. It doesn’t matter what software codes you might prefer. What matters is that children are being put at auction to the highest and most persistent bidder.

If you can’t grasp this big picture, I suggest you look and see what software is operating you.

References to guns, representations of guns, and thoughts about guns are now targets for a big-time purification/eradication campaign in schools. It’s an innovation in the mass hypnosis operation. It’s happening in schools because that’s where the children are. That’s where they can be corralled and controlled. That’s where the federal money keeps the lights on and the toilets flushing and the checks coming. It’s called leverage. Behind their big bucks, the feds play a tune, and the teachers repeat it, over and over and over.

Jon Rappoport
          

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 10:45:05 PM »
Exactly.  The point of all this is to brainwash children into hating and fearing firearms.  The left is willing to wait.  It took them nearly fifty years to complete their Gramscian march through the institutions.  If it takes another generation to stamp out the American respect for the right to keep and bear arms, then that's what it takes.  Meanwhile, they're starting now.
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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 11:57:43 PM »
Gramscian!  I've seen you use that term a number of times, but I wonder how many really know that you're referring to the perverted political theories and plans of Antonio Gramsci.  I use the word 'perverted' not in the sense of diddling little boys or girls, but rather of the perversion by the contemporary Left of Gramsci's original vision.  Gramsci was a true socialist/communist, but he really wasn't a statist.  The rise of the state as all-powerful is a kind of inertial effect of power and greed that quite naturally evolves as the Gramscian 'counter-hegemony' grows in influence.  In any case, perverted or pure, Gramsci's vision is in direct opposition to the God-given rights upon which our nation was founded.

In simple terms, Gramsci theorized that socialists had to take a long view and win what we now call the Culture War. Gramsci posited that all life is political, and as such every aspect of living is a battlefield in the struggle to achieve a transformation of society.  The Left has been working steadfastly at this for the better part of a century and we're at (or probably past) the point of no return.  The schools, from pre-school through college, are completely controlled by the Left; likewise most of the traditional media.  Only the internet remains as a medium that can be used to oppose the relentless assault on liberty.

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 05:45:39 AM »
Public schools = parental malpractice
Yes, I'm a physician.  No, I'm not YOUR physician.  Nothing I say here is medical advice.

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 06:52:37 AM »
I may have the answer. Let's promote "Barack Obama skeet shooting teams" in our public schools.



I'm envisioning book covers, flyers etc. "Skeet is Kool" "See you at the range". Also fund raising efforts featuring the same photo. "Won't you help deserving young people learn to shoot skeet?"

Big time cognitive dissonance for the gun fearing, Obama loving, school bureaurcrats.

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 08:59:00 AM »
I wonder though, how much is culture war, and how my is simple CYA liability avoidance.  Because we all know, the one thing .gov types avoid like the plague is being held responsible for something.

Apply a zero-tolerance, no judgement required policy, and they can't be held responsible when some functionary makes judgement error and allows something dangerous because they thought it was harmless.
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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 09:32:41 AM »
I was really interested about the Oklahoma incident.  I live here, and people honestly think that those stories of kids getting in trouble only happen in liberal states.  So, I googled it.  The amazing thing is that it happened two years ago.  There is no Sandy Hook overreaction excuse for that school.  I agree with the good doctor here and the good professor...Sending your kids to public school is looking more and more like parental malpractice.  We pulled our six year old son last year.  I will never send him back.

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2013, 01:31:33 PM »
I may have the answer. Let's promote "Barack Obama skeet shooting teams" in our public schools.



I'm envisioning book covers, flyers etc. "Skeet is Kool" "See you at the range". Also fund raising efforts featuring the same photo. "Won't you help deserving young people learn to shoot skeet?"

Big time cognitive dissonance for the gun fearing, Obama loving, school bureaurcrats.



Great!  I'd love to see the SOB's argue against a wholesome activity that dear leader participates in "all the time".
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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2013, 02:57:29 PM »
I'm envisioning book covers, flyers etc. "Skeet is Kool" "See you at the range". Also fund raising efforts featuring the same photo. "Won't you help deserving young people learn to shoot skeet?"

That is pure awesome.

I'd love for the kids to have that pic as a screensaver with the caption "If Prez Obama proudly does it all the time, then it must be a safe and fun activity." The school janitors would sure be kept busy mopping up after all the 'teachers' heads explode.

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2013, 06:40:28 PM »
The jokes write themselves....


"Lets watch President Zero zero his AR"
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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2013, 12:56:35 PM »
An abhorrence of guns can be found even here in what I've long considered a sensible gun & hunting area. This week I interviewed a couple of taxidermists for an article. They told me that about a year ago they helped run a hunting contest called "Big Bucks for Big Bucks." A 14-year-old girl won, got on the Spokane tv news & in the newspaper.

They said the anti-gun & peta people went thru the roof! It was so horrible to encourage kids to kill defenseless animals! And so on & on. As if killing animals for food will cause them to become serial people killers or something.

Yesterday a local kid showed up at school with a handgun & knife in his backpack. I think his parents have been letting him watch too much news.  :(

I'm glad we homeschooled & our kids grew up sane - more or less.  ;)
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Yes, I'm a physician.  No, I'm not YOUR physician.  Nothing I say here is medical advice.

Do I treat Glocks like I treat my lawn mowers?  No, I treat them worse.  I treat my defensive weapons like my fire extinguishers and smoke detector - annual maintenance and I expect them to work when needed

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2013, 05:01:44 PM »
Public schools = parental malpractice
Pretty much My thoughts. I was in High School in the early 80's (Graduated in 1983) and this was part of our system even then.

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 11:55:03 AM »
I was in school in the fifties and sixties.  I carried a knife in my pocket from the time I was six or seven, as did every other boy I knew.  We'd all be in jail today, I suppose.  Or being heavily dosed with amphetamines so that we won't act like boys.
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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2013, 02:06:20 PM »
I carried a Swiss Army knife to school every day in high school ('88-'92).

Don't know if it was against the rules or not.  Do know the teachers never saw it, or didn't say anything if they did.
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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2013, 06:26:06 PM »
At the Colorado high school I graduated from in 1974, there was one clique that regularly brought guns to school - the "cowboys", who all drove beat-up 1950's vintage pickups with gun racks in the rear window. Every one of them brought a rifle or two to school in their vehicles every day, and we thought nothing of it...

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« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2013, 02:17:48 PM »
Every one of them brought a rifle or two to school in their vehicles every day, and we thought nothing of it...

All of that ended abruptly early in Dubya's first term.  The creation of DHS marked the end of our Republic and the subtle beginning of the rapidly emerging police state.

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« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 07:50:11 AM »
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Every one of them brought a rifle or two to school in their vehicles every day, and we thought nothing of it...

I was questioned once by the HS principal as to what, exactly, that was lying in the back seat of my car in the student parking lot (they used to wander about looking for folks studying applied biology during their free hour).  When I explained that it was a pump-action .22, because I intended to stop and rabbit hunt that afternoon, he took me to the trunk of his car in the faculty parking lot to show me his Remington "Nylon 66", a then-new creation using a newfangled plastic stock.

It was a different time, in a different land, peopled by a different type of citizen.

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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 08:54:25 AM »
It was a different time, in a different land, peopled by a different type of citizen.

Different time...different type of citizen...BUT it's the same land and we must work to bring our citizenry back to the principles of liberty.  This is not, nor will it ever be, time to surrender to the forces of the deluded collectivists who dominate our media and schools.

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« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 08:34:15 PM »
CoCon - boy, has Colorado - greater Denver, at least - changed since that time.  I moved there in 1969 and left in 1983, and I saw enormous changes just over that time frame.  Judging from I see happening there since, apparently all of California moved there after I left - or Boulder expanded and took over the entire state.
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« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2013, 04:18:51 PM »
CoCon - boy, has Colorado - greater Denver, at least - changed since that time.  I moved there in 1969 and left in 1983, and I saw enormous changes just over that time frame.  Judging from I see happening there since, apparently all of California moved there after I left - or Boulder expanded and took over the entire state.
I was in The Springs in 92-94, and that area, at least, had not changed.  You know you're in a conservative area when the military are the most liberal ones around.
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« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2013, 06:39:26 PM »
CoCon - boy, has Colorado - greater Denver, at least - changed since that time.  I moved there in 1969 and left in 1983, and I saw enormous changes just over that time frame.  Judging from I see happening there since, apparently all of California moved there after I left - or Boulder expanded and took over the entire state.

Seriously, I sent a long email to our Governor explaining how my wife and I, and our investments and businesses, are seriously thinking about leaving the state thanks to the Dem-dominated legislature's moves in the gun-grab arena. It's disgusting, and the Denver-Boulder area is dominated by liberals. The rural areas and some population centers -- Douglas County and Colorado Springs -- are quite conservative. I'm all for letting Denver, Boulder, and Aurora form their own state...

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Re: Punishment for fake guns in schools...
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2013, 07:03:01 PM »
Seriously, I sent a long email to our Governor explaining how my wife and I, and our investments and businesses, are seriously thinking about leaving the state thanks to the Dem-dominated legislature's moves in the gun-grab arena. It's disgusting, and the Denver-Boulder area is dominated by liberals. The rural areas and some population centers -- Douglas County and Colorado Springs -- are quite conservative. I'm all for letting Denver, Boulder, and Aurora form their own state...

Frank

Same problem is repeated all over the country...Chicago/Cook County in Illinois, St Louis and KC in Missouri, Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia corridor in Washington, Las Vegas in Nevada...big cities breed statists.
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