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Offline Drang

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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2013, 11:08:24 AM »
And here is here "by name, manufacturer, and design" list of bannanation:
List of firearms prohibited by name
Rifles:
All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS;
All AR types, including the following: AR–10, AR–15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15–T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR–70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R–15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR–15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles;
Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1;
Beretta CX4 Storm;
Calico Liberty Series;
CETME Sporter;
Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C;
Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000;
Feather Industries AT–9;
Galil Model AR and Model ARM;
Hi-Point Carbine;
HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1 and HK USC;
Kel-Tec Sub–2000, SU–16, and RFB;
SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551;
Springfield Armory SAR–48;
Steyr AUG;
Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M–14/20CF;
All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1–C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C;
UMAREX UZI Rifle;
UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine;
Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78;
Vector Arms UZI Type;
Weaver Arms Nighthawk;
Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
Pistols:
All AK–47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK–47 pistol, HCR AK–47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK–47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol;
All AR–15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR–15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR–15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol;
Calico Liberty pistols;
DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol;
Encom MP–9 and MP–45;
Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol;
Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9;
Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol;
The following MAC types: MAC–10, MAC–11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11, Velocity Arms VMAC;
Sig Sauer P556 pistol;
Sites Spectre;
All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5;
All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.
Shotguns: Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12;
All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika;
Streetsweeper; Striker 12.
Belt-fed semiautomatic firearms:
All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms including TNW M2HB.
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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2013, 12:35:00 PM »
All semi-auto shotguns with a capacity of more than 5 rounds...what the heck does she have against 3-gun?  (My CZ-712 holds 8+1.  When Nordic gets around to making more XXL caps, it'll be 9+1).

Oh, and apparently putting that Knoxx Compstock on your shotgun wouldn't be kosher either.

And Fiona from Burn Notice would be in big trouble.  Not that she worries about gun laws much anyway. :D

I'd say, best guess, their "reasonable compromise" is mag limits and universal background checks.

My proposal is that we shove the entirely of section 922 (large print edition) up her ass sideways, then light it on fire.

Reasonable compromise?  We don't light it.
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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2013, 12:51:09 PM »
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Reasonable compromise?  We don't light it.

Well said!
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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2013, 12:57:08 PM »
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Ooh, look, a Federal registry of "assault weapons"!  And still no definition of what is an "assault weapon", just a list of cosmetic features we don't like!

And then consider..... Homeland security just bought 7000 "personal defense weapons" IOW M-16s, IN OTHER WORDS, NOT AR-15s, but REAL (by the honest definition) assault rifles, yes... machine guns. You know, the kind you aren't allowed to buy even before any of this new legislation may pass.

It is also notable that they purchased something like 1.8 BILLION rounds of various calibers of hollow point ammunition. This is NOT ammunition to be used in warfare, for the conventions of war only allow the use of FMJ (full metal jacket) bullets in the fighting of war. Apparently though, it's just perfectly fine to use this ammo on your own population.

One has to wonder at their sudden need for such a stockpile.
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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2013, 01:09:27 PM »
I'd say, best guess, their "reasonable compromise" is mag limits and universal background checks.

My proposal is that we shove the entirely of section 922 (large print edition) up her ass sideways, then light it on fire.

Reasonable compromise?  We don't light it.
Over on Pistol Forums.com someone asked what compromises we thought "gun advocates" should be willing to give.  My answer:
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Everything.
I want full-capacity magazines.
I want to have whatever cosmetic features on a gun the designer and I want.
I want full auto --and suppressors, and short barrels--without having to jump through hoops.
I want nation-wide reciprocity.
I want to be able to buy a gun if I'm out of state. (With NICS, there's no reason I shouldn't be able to.)
I want no more nonsense about smart guns or micro-stamping or "fired brass" records.
I want to carry on a plane and on Federal property.
I don't want to "enforce the gun laws we have", I want to repeal the myriad BS laws and rules and regulations we have.
I want the ATFEIEIO to go away.
I want busy-body politicians and nanny-staters to get the hell off my lawn.
I was informed that that is an uncompromising position and unrealistic.
Well, he's right, it is both of those things.  But the gun banners' "compromise" position is increasingly looking like "We'll let you keep something, for now, until we decide to take that away, too."
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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2013, 08:18:06 PM »
  But the gun banners' "compromise" position is increasingly looking like "We'll let you keep something, for now, until we decide to take that away, too."

"Increasingly looking like?"  That's pretty much what it's always been.

Run a web search for "Lawdog gun control cake analogy" or something like that.  Lawdog's blog, and his cake analogy.  About sums it up.

And if I'm not mistaken, this is post #1000 for me.  Whoop!
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Re: Gun bills in the US Senate
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2013, 03:42:49 PM »
Perhaps I should have said "increasingly obvious".  Although comment sat other boards indicate that there are still those willing to compromise.

The LawDog Files: A repost contains The Cake Analogy.  Which got "Major Caudill-ized) (AKA "stolen") by someone else, and LawDog posted a post about copyro9ght, etc., and it was taken down.

Further LawDog goodness: Gun-Free does not equal Violence-Free
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