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Offline ND Martin

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The cold civil war is heating up rapidly...
« on: January 27, 2013, 07:56:08 PM »
Found this on the b'sphere and thought it worth sharing here...

               
From Rabble Such As This, Rise a People Whom Defy Kings.
By jcmessmer January 22, 2013

What purpose do any of our freedoms serve if we have no means to protect them? Are we not only as strong as our own weakest link? Surely the people are strong when united, but when the fist of angered men crashes down with might and power, what is our powerless response? Thomas Jefferson was an extraordinarily insightful man as a founding father, and is attributed to the saying “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.”

It is important to remember the fallacy of this statement, however. The government of the United States does not grant rights, and it does not allocate freedom. Rather, the Constitution of the United States expressly states that we have these rights, and that the government is not to infringe upon them.

We are in the midst of a time when all this is called into question. Not only is the validity of our sanctified freedoms under fire, but our resilience as a culture. Surely one can watch from afar in the land of tea and crumpets calling us ‘cowboys’ and claiming out guns will be our downfall. In truth, however, clinging to our guns is the only thing that has saved this nation from absolute dissolution. To believe that war has become less popular in the modern era because we have grown too fond of it is a statement of profound ignorance. As we sit here today, our brothers and sisters are arming themselves. Civil War exists the same as cannibalism exists. It is so far fetched that the American people could stomach a revolution again. In this same notion, however, we could never stomach slavery. Thus, it is undeniable that our nation will come to blows. To claim we would rather die than to eat fellow man as a means of survival is absurd. Our fear of leaving the happy bubble we live in is influencing our thought process, but when starvation and deprivation drag you within an inch of death itself, all of life come into question. You begin to see the flaws in every member of your party. Who is the weakest? Who could you do without? Who has angered you? Who shall be the one you choose?

Revolution is the same way. Those who are most likely to fight for the cause are those who have the most to lose. It is the same, however, that these individuals have the most to gain.

The Cold War has begun. Ammunition cannot be found anywhere you go. First it was the common calibers, 9mm, 45ACP, 40S&W, .223/5.56, and 7.62×39. Those who have already been patiently awaiting the acids and infestations of our nation to eat away at our innards see the early signs, and began rapid preparations. Then it spread like wildfire. Pistol grip rifles, gone. AR-15′s, gone. AK-47′s, gone. Magazines, equipment, parts, barrels, everything…gone.

It used to be just another ammo and gun rush. Same as the election, same as the Aurora shooting, same as always. Now its something worse. Assault Weapons Bans are passing, Congressmen and State legislators are proposing confiscation, and weapons are being outlawed. Lines are being drawn, families are moving to states with fortitude, and homesteads are becoming the talk of the town. People are going off the grid with their firearms, ammo, and equipment. Mobilization from public water, electric, and gas systems are moving to independent, clean, alternate energies.

This is not a society preparing for a doomsday. We are not preparing for an economic spike where we may have to defend our homes. It isn’t just a matter of getting ammunition while it is cheap, it is about getting what you can when it is available, regardless the price. Our nation is preparing for war. Like our forefathers at Lexington and Concord, stockpiles of weapons are emerging and springing up. The day the regulars march on our homes to reduce the patriots will be a day we all dread.

The numbers are amounting, supplies are dwindling, and every party or social gathering has the wind down period where men and their sons, neighbors, fathers, friends, and co-workers gather on the dark porches of the homes, smoking their pipes and cigars, sipping their whiskey as they discuss the future of their families.

Law Enforcement are drawing their lines in the sand, taking their stand against tyranny or rebellion. Soldiers wait for their enlistments to run out, some to renew for a bonus, others for reasons their own. Groups of men gather to practice battle drills, discuss fallout locations, procedures, rosters, and planning for the worst case scenarios, scenarios that are more and more becoming a great possibility.

It wasn’t much different than this that our nation was born. I don’t even think it was planned, or synchronized by like minded persons or groups. Their were no crazies, and few groups that took this as an opportunity to recruit. It simply happened. We really did just wake up one day to find our freedoms under fire. And now, now we are seeing what a nation becomes when its government declares war on the freedoms of its citizenry. The bars, pubs, taverns, and back rooms are filled with soft spoken revolutionaries. The whispers of men prepared to take upon themselves their sword and shield, to mount and ride for the cause of liberty, are growing in the darkness.

All that is required for the success of evil is for good men to do nothing. Do not be mislead. The good men are not doing nothing. The good men are biding their time, waiting for what comes next. Tyranny will not pull through, and the triumph of freedom will always be there for those who are vigilant, patient, and prepared.
               

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Re: The cold civil war is heating up rapidly...
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 12:01:35 AM »
I believe it was William Buckley who once wrote "It may be that the waters are out and none can hold them back, but that is no reason why as we drift with the flood we should sing hallelujah to the river gods." *

Talk of insurrection and more particularly it's seeming advocacy strikes me as both counterproductive and downright dangerous.  To begin with, I for one have no wish to be associated with the paranoid fringe of any stripe. And make no mistake that is exactly who these people are -  they no more speak for the majority of gun owners than the SDS spoke for the majority of students or the Black Panthers for the majority of blacks.  The last thing anyone needs right now is a lot of loose talk about conspiracy and revolution.  Everyone, including the current administration is fully aware that, as of today, a sufficient majority of senators and congressmen are willing to stand up for our rights... as of today.  Incite some halfwit militia wanna be  into going off half cocked and we will all be remembering the Sandy Hook aftermath as the good old days.  Keep up this kind of talk and believe me, the Bloombergs, the Eric Holders, the Rahm Emanuels of this world will love you.

* I'm sorry, I could not find the actual quote tonight so that is strictly from memory.   


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Re: The cold civil war is heating up rapidly...
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 12:53:33 AM »
Yep.  The original American revolution was fought and won by a minority of the population.  Many thought it was counterproductive and dangerous, and there was a significant number of colonists loyal to the King whose descendants live in Canada today.  

As for the late Mr. Buckley, he also said, "The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry."  You might enjoy this critical commentary.

The quote you reference wasn't Buckley's, but rather was penned in 1873 by James FitzJames Stephen in Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.  Here's the longer version:

What have you to recommend? I answer at once, Nothing. The whole current of thought and feeling, the whole stream of human affairs, is setting with irresistible force in that direction. The old ways of living, many of which were just as bad in their time as any of our devices are in ours, are breaking down all over Europe, and are floating this way and that like haycocks in a flood. Nor do I see why any wise man should expend much thought or trouble on trying to save their wrecks. The waters are out and no human force can turn them back, but I do not see why as we go with the stream we need sing Hallelujah to the river god.

Stephen was a Victorian administrator and jurist who opposed liberty in favor of legal compulsion, coercion and restraint in the interests of morality and religion.
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Re: The cold civil war is heating up rapidly...
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 07:49:11 AM »
The 'cold civil war' and/or 'civil war 2' meme is rapidly spreading through the b'sphere.  I'm not even a little bit surprised that it originated with Ayn Rand.  Here's another poignant example of the more moderate patriot prose that's proliferating.  (Pardon the paranomeon...I had to p. :-))

            
Musings After Midnight--I'll see you in the war: Civil War II--Notes on the coming calamity to restore the Constitution

Good morning, dear Patriots, and welcome. The news is dire and the time is short. So, let's get right down to business.

 It is my firm belief that civil war is now inevitable and imminent in America. As with the two world wars of the early 20th century, this will be "Civil War II"--which addresses issues the first Civil War failed to address.

 Never before in modern history has there been so much talk even among elected government officials that we stand on the cusp of "insurrection," "a revolutionary uprising," and a "war between citizens on our own soil."

 Yet here we are. Even Charles Krauthammer, who is not given to hyperbolic engagement in hysterics, stated that if the Obama Administration proceeds with its gun control plans, there will be insurrection.

 And a trusted friend of mine who has significant friends and contacts both inside and outside the government has indicated that war is near and that many militia groups are now poised to fight it. "Let's get this over and done now so our children and grandchildren won't have to," is the sentiment being expressed.

 If it were only the gun issue plaguing the current ruling class, civil war probably could be avoided with a simple step or two to back off draconian new gun control laws and gun bans, abandoning plans to register ammo purchases, and focusing instead on sensible security measures for the nation's children. Guns are used to protect the president, congressmen and senators, government officials, banks, money, and Hollywood stars.

 Why not the children?

 The answer is simple. To seriously protect the children the leviathans would have to admit that ordinary citizens need the unfettered right to keep and bear arms, as our Founders guaranteed in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. This they are not willing to do. In their warped world view the people are not to be trusted with guns. Only the elites, the rich, the political ruling class, and the police and military should have access to guns.

 King George and the British could not have said it better in the days leading up to the Revolutionary War in 1776.

 But guns are not the only issue that has led America to the brink of civil war.

 This president has told too many lies, exhibited too much unbridled arrogance, and overstepped the Constitutional limits on his power too often on a number of issues to be let off the hook. So have his enablers in Congress, most of whom are Democrats, although a few Republicans have helped him as well.

Fact 1: Obama won reelection with barely over 50% of the vote. His opponent won over 49% of the vote. This is hardly a "mandate." He does not have a blank check. But he acts like it. He thinks he is King. He acts like a dictator in the tradition of Hitler and Stalin who should be given anything he wants. He is like a big baby who never grew up and is sitting in his high chair banging on the table throwing tantrums. Any American president who displays such qualities does not deserve the office. He should be forcibly removed.

Fact 2: Obama lied to Speaker John Boehner on the debt negotiations. He told him in good faith prior to the election that he would compromise on his demands for tax increases, and accept four dollars in spending reductions for every dollar in tax increases. After the election, Obama changed the goal posts in mid stream. No longer would he settle for $800,000 in tax increases, but he demanded 2.7 trillion in tax hikes. And he insisted that any spending reductions be put off until later.

 This is not a quality of good leadership, trustworthiness, or moral integrity. He is unfit for the office. In a different era he would be likened to a sleazy card shark on a Mississippi river boat. While some may admire such a person's ability to outmaneuver opponents using dishonest tricks of the trade, is this a quality we admire or want in a president? Really?

Fact 3: Obama wants to be able to increase the debt ceiling any time he wants, in any amount he wants, without the approval of Congress. Congress resisted that one, but now comes word that he will likely use the 14th Amendment to the Constitution to seize the power to be absolute dictator over the debt and spending. The amendment has never been used in such a fashion in U.S. history. But my sources say he is willing to go down that trail, opening up a plethora of legal challenges that will be tied up in the courts for years. In the meantime, Obama will spend the nation into complete bankruptcy with nobody in Congress or the Courts to stop him. They have shown they don't have the guts.

 Patriots have the guts. He must not be allowed to do this, period.

Fact 4: Now that he has been reelected, Obama is appointing the most radical rejects he can find to top cabinet posts. John Kerry at State? Chuck Hagel at Defense? Jack Lew at Treasury? These are absolute clowns, buffoons who should not be serving anywhere in government at all. Each lie through their teeth. They are anti-military, anti-Jew, and anti-fiscal responsibility. And he expects the Senate to roll over and approve these lightweight Leftwing nutcases to the government. Woe be unto us if he gets to nominate new Supreme Court justices.

 Republicans had best get in block mode and deny to Obama anyone and everyone he nominates. His choices exhibit a lack of competence and a deep disdain for America and its Constitution. This is why any Supreme Court nominee he sends to the Senate must be BLOCKED, even if it means tying up the Senate in endless filibusters. At all costs he must not be allowed to get whoever he wants in these important offices.

Fact 5: Obama is threatening to use the "executive order" to accomplish what Congress denies him...an abuse of the original intent of the executive order. This would amount to an outright dictatorship that bypasses elected officials in Congress. Such an act in matters of clear Constitutional precedent indicating the need for due process would amount to tyranny, a high crime under the Constitution, and punishable by whatever the Congress deems appropriate, up to and including the death penalty.

 Will our castrated Republican leadership do anything about it if Obama goes down this path? I doubt it. That means only one thing, and you know what I am talking about...a citizen posse that will make arrests according to the terms of the 10th Amendment and others. Perhaps it is also time for the citizens to empower the Citizen Grand Jury, given that the judicial branch of government is failing in its duty to uphold the Constitution. The 10th Amendment, thus, gives THE PEOPLE the power to take action in such a circumstance.

 Thus, while the gun issue is the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back, there are a number of issues driving the current unrest in the heartland of America. In short, we have had quite enough of Barack Obama and all who enable him to take unlawful and unconstitutional actions, and that includes Democrats in Congress, the Courts, and even 50% of our fellow citizens. Our patience has run thin with you for your willful ignorance, your willingness to sell your soul for a government payoff, your lack of basic values and common decency, and your practice of incessantly violating time-honored Constitutional principles that put clear limits on government and how far the "majority" can go. Unalienable rights are not subject to a majority vote.

 I fully expect, therefore, that war will break out on our own soil in 2013, unless something drastic is done to reign in the arrogance of Obama and the Washington ruling establishment. These people must be stopped by the process that has been put in place to do so, or else the citizens will take matters into their own hands.

 The official line in the sand is the gun issue. And thus, I have some definitive declarations that need to be considered by the powers that be before they go off on an unconstitutional rampage on the rights of the people.

1. We will not comply with any new gun control law.

2. We will not turn in any firearm that you suddenly decide to be "illegal." They are illegal only in your own delusional minds.

3. In the event you limit ammunition or require us to register to get it, we will create the biggest black market in the history of the world. We can make our own ammunition.

4. We will not comply with any new gun bans. We can make our own guns as well, even the type you wish to take from us.

5. The attempt to gain entrance to our homes to confiscate our guns and ammunition will be considered an act of war. We will not comply. Be prepared to kill us if you do such an asinine thing in what is supposed to be a FREE country. But then, also be aware that you will pay a heavy price for perpetrating such tyranny.

6. We will never fire on tyrannical government personnel first. But if we are  fired upon first, you had best be prepared to live with what follows. War is hell.

7. Never again will we allow you to perpetrate a Waco, Texas massacre on citizens merely for trying to practice their religion, though unpopular. And we will never again allow you to pull a Ruby Ridge without swift, severe consequences.

 One hundred million citizens own and keep 300 million firearms of various types. Do you honestly believe you have a chance to overwhelm us? Even if only three percent of the 100 million engage in battle, that's three million citizens -- nothing to sneeze at.

 The citizen militia in the 1770s defeated the most powerful army in the world at the time -- the British army that presided over a worldwide empire.

 And don't think that Civil War I is any indication of government power in this. The situation was entirely different. Southerners at the very outset were in a weakened position. Poverty was rampant. They were at a clear disadvantage.

 This time, it won't be one region of the country pitted against another region. Patriot gun owners live in all 50 states, and the three percent are scattered throughout America. That means that if you are in Maine or Massachusetts, your neighbor may be one of the three percent who will fight you and the federal jackbooted government thugs.

 And if any one of us is arrested, murdered, or harmed in any way in order to make an example of us, you had best beware and be prepared to go into hiding. Three million angry gun owners will rise up in defiance of your deadly tyranny and teach you a lesson that will go down in history as a definitive moment in our nation.

 These words of mine are meant to force the powers that be to think twice and pause indefinitely before they embark on any action that will culminate in such violence in our streets. Mine is but a warning, a word to the wise. You need to know what's coming. And you need to rethink your current course of action.

 We are dead serious. We are not going to allow you to blame us for what one idiotic, crazed lunatic does illegally with guns he obtained illegally. Do something to actually secure the schools rather than widow dress with a red herring (gun control and bans), and address the problem of the criminals and the lunatics. But leave the rest of us the hell alone. Or else.
              
« Last Edit: January 28, 2013, 08:04:48 AM by ND Martin »


 

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