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Offline Bill Quick

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Concealed Carry In California - Sort Of?
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:01:45 AM »
I posted this yesterday over at DP, but I thought I'd run it by the experts here as well, especially those who hail from the Golden State and have some understanding of the way firearms law works here.

Thanks for any input you can offer!

Transporting - Calguns Foundation Wiki
It is legal to transport your handgun to anyplace where it is legal to possess. Penal Code provides an exemption for transporting a handgun concealed; typically one uses a completely enclosed locked container to transport an unloaded handgun.
Trigger locks, cable locks and other devices are not useful to avoid violating the concealed weapon law. Ammunition may be carried in that locked container, in magazines or speed loaders, so long as no ammunition is actually in the handgun.
The container may be carried anywhere in a vehicle; transport is not restricted to a trunk. Aside from 'registered assault weapons', California requires only that long guns be unloaded when transported - no lock or case required.
Federal law regarding school zones requires that long guns be in a locked container or a locking gun rack while passing through those 1000 foot zones.
Other than 'assault weapons', for vehicle transport there are no 'destination' or 'route' limits so long as it is legal to possess a firearm en route or at the destination.
One may transport a handgun either openly or concealed.

One may transport a handgun either in/on a vehicle or on foot.

Without CCW, the handgun must be unloaded.

Since the trunk is not required, transport of a handgun, unloaded in a secure locked container, is allowed on bicycles and motorcycles, and in pickup trucks, vans and station wagons.

So long as the handgun is itself unloaded, ammunition in the same container does not make the handgun loaded.

Some gun owners may be more comfortable transporting ammunition in a separate container, or a separate compartment of the locked container, but this is not required by current law.

So it seems to me that an Uncle Mike's pistol rug containing an unloaded .357 pistol and a couple of speed loaders, secured with a quick-open combination lock, might be a handy, legal accessory inside a bicycle rider's bag....

Yes, I understand you won't be quick draw McGraw with such a setup, but it seems a hell of a lot better than nothing.

BTW, I just mailed in my Application for a Federal Firearms License (Collector of Curios and Relics).

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Re: Concealed Carry In California - Sort Of?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2012, 12:50:47 PM »
I...am so glad I no longer live in CA.
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Re: Concealed Carry In California - Sort Of?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2012, 04:59:24 PM »
There is a difference between the letter of the law, and the spirit of the law. The police often enforce the spirit of the law, which in California, can be expressed as follows:

Second amendment notwithstanding, normal people don't have or carry guns, and anyone who does is probably breaking the law. They should be dealt with using extreme suspicion and prejudice.

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Re: Concealed Carry In California - Sort Of?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2012, 08:46:47 AM »
Actually, from everything I've heard (no personal experience - my interest in guns came after I left the state 16 years ago) that attitude is only accurate for the urban 'blue' areas.

Go up to, say, Shasta County, or any part of the erstwhile 'State of Jefferson' and you'll find pro-gun attitudes, and sheriffs who issue carry permits to pretty much everyone with a clean record.  IIRC, that fact was part of the CalGuns  equal protection challenge to the law.
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