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Signs of Doom / The Impeccable Timing of Greeks
« Last post by Bill Quick on Today at 12:13:04 AM »

Sugar, flour, rice: panicked Greeks stock up on essentials

Athens (AFP) - Greeks were hoarding cash and food Saturday amid mounting fears the economy could collapse, cracking open their wallets only to stock up on essentials and stripping supermarket shelves in the process.

Mothers, elderly men and university students were spotted pushing heavily overloaded trolleys or coming out of shops weighed down by bags of food, with essentials such as sugar, flour and pasta top of the list.

Yes, you always want to start your prepping no more than the day before Armegeddon.
The scenario I've been noodling with is that at this point the US is in a shambles, and everyday life is getting damned near impossible for the average schlub.

Hillary's pitch will be, "I was fixing things before the illegal coup.  Now you're being run by a dictator, when I am still the legal President. Put me back in charge and I'll fix everything."

Judging by the way the Greeks are acting right now, if people are frightened enough, and dumb enough, they'll believe anything.

Actually, hell.  Judging by the way the United States....
Personal Experience / Re: So...I Had to Clean out My Preps Shed....
« Last post by Bill Quick on July 04, 2015, 11:36:51 PM »

Quote from: TsMom on July 01, 2015, 09:49:43 PM
If you store your food in mylar bags before putting them in plastic containers, do you need the gamma lids? I am asking from a complete lack of knowledge. I would like to store multiple foods in each container. A mylar bag with rice, one with beans, one with wheat berries, etc. I know that is less efficient.

I've stored them that way.  Use the one gallon mylar bags with a few oxysorbers inside, mark the contents with magic marker, and put them into a five gallon pail with more oxysorbers on the outside, then seal the pail.  I've also separated grains I figured I might use together - like rice and beans - into indidual freezer bags, dropped them into a pail-sized mylar bag, sealed that, and then sealed the pail.

I don't worry too much about gamma lids.  You can buy a cheap little pry tool that will let you remove regular lids and then reuse them several times if you want a tight seal.  Also, if you open up a five gallon pail of rice or somesuch, as long as you keep it dry (put the lid back on between uses - doesn't have to be tight, just enough to defeat moisture and humidity - they will easily last a year with no nutritional loss.  Keeping them dry is the key, though.  Otherwise you get mold.
Personal Experience / Re: So...I Had to Clean out My Preps Shed....
« Last post by Bill Quick on July 04, 2015, 11:31:28 PM »

They may not have intact lids, but you can get gamma seals (unfortunately, I have not found a cheap seller) for them.
I bought my pails at Lowes for 4.39 a pop.  Regular air-sealed lids were a buck something.  They had gammas for seven bucks.  I gave them a pass, because I had them on my vittles vaults, and they all failed at the seal.
Personal Experience / Re: So...I Had to Clean out My Preps Shed....
« Last post by Bill Quick on July 04, 2015, 11:29:42 PM »
A super pail is a 6 gallon (instead of 5 gallon) food grade bucket....

And if your grocery store, walmart, costco, etc. has a bakery, see if they have buckets they will sell for a dollar or two, that came with frosting, fillings, etc....  Sometimes they have them. Likewise bakeries or donut shops..

They may not have intact lids, but you can get gamma seals (unfortunately, I have not found a cheap seller) for them.
I thought a super pail was any heavy duty food grade plastic pail with an airtight seal, and the goods inside sealed in an airless mylar bag.  Is it only the six gallon jobbies, then?
Quote from: Langenator on July 01, 2015, 07:45:05 AM
I wonder if we could get a boomer close enough to China to take depressed trajectory shots at their ICBM silos and/or Bejing? (I'm assuming we could take out their missile sub or subs on cue.)  Or sneak a B-2 through their air defense with a gravity bomb.  Come in from over Afghanistan - I'd guess the air defense would be weakest and least vigilant from that direction, given that the post-Soviet 'Stans aren't a threat to anyone but their own citizens.
Aren't they building a bunch of boomers against that very possibility?
General Discussions / Re: Chinese Stock Market Dropping Sharply
« Last post by Langenator on July 04, 2015, 06:37:19 AM »
The question is, what's the "So what?" If there's a major downward correction or crash, what does that mean for for PRC behavior?

There's been plenty of concern of late about aggressive behavior by China. If the stock market tasks, would they get more aggressive? Or would they focus inward, on keeping a lid on internal dissent. (Despite popular theory, wars tend to be started by confident countries, not ones that are suffering internal unrest.)
Announcements: Please Read! / Re: I'm Going to Try to Revive This Site
« Last post by 9thInfDivRvrRat on July 03, 2015, 09:47:28 PM »
Dang, Sarge, you always find the most cheerful stuff...
General Discussions / Re: Chinese Stock Market Dropping Sharply
« Last post by Drang on July 03, 2015, 09:30:22 PM »
There's been speculation that this was  coming for a while now.
General Discussions / Chinese Stock Market Dropping Sharply
« Last post by Dale00 on July 03, 2015, 07:06:20 PM »
I suspect it is just a correction after some speculative excesses but the big drop in Chinese stocks may continue. If so, watch out.

As Europeans hold their breath awaiting a referendum that will help determine Greece's future in the euro zone, a stock market slump on the other side of the world is causing barely a ripple in global markets.        A dizzying three-week plunge in Chinese equities has wiped out $2.36 trillion in market value -- equivalent to about 10 times Greece's gross domestic product last year.        Still, the closed nature of China's financial markets is allowing the rest of the world to watch in wonder without seeing spillovers into their markets...yet.
"What happens in China will turn out to be far more consequential than any sting that Greece may deliver over the coming weeks or months,'' said Frederic Neumann, co-head of Asian economic research at HSBC Holdings Plc in Hong Kong. "As China's equity markets lose their roar, the risk is that demand more broadly on the Mainland could take a hit. That would knock out an essential engine of world demand over the past decade. As dramatic as events in Greece currently appear, however, ultimately, it's difficult to see these proving decisive for the world economy.'' 
For now, even within China, economists find it tough to draw a link between its retail-driven stock market swings and the economy. A recent survey by Bloomberg shows analysts split on whether a rout would have any decisive effect on growth.
One thing to note: With China opening its capital borders, roller-coaster rides on its stock market will have increasing repercussions for investors from London to New York and Tokyo. But that's farther out in the future than the more immediate concerns in Greece.
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